I think the problem is that I didn't run the command from the konsole:
indiserver indi_gphoto_ccd indi_simulator_telescope indi_asi_st4 indi_simulator_focus
however the indi starter app shows started when I click the start button and it shows a green dot.
Also my 3rd party drivers are from github and they are updated almost daily but all of them are configured as "custom" and not as CCD etc.